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9 HN users recommended this between 2015 and 2021, in 9 comments.
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9 HN users recommended this between 2015 and 2021, in 9 comments.
Each tall tick is one HN user's first recommendation. A short tick is the same user again. Click a tick to jump to the comment.
I had severe right arm problems and in addition to getting treatment from doctors was looking for every way to relieve the issues in my workspace.
I had a friend let me borrow a https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage-pro-for-pc-mac/ and it took a while to adapt to it but it ended up helping. I didn't want to keep it indefinitely so while I thought about buying one for myself I wanted to try something different. I did some research online and ended up buying a Truly Ergonomic 229. I liked the keyboard layout for the most part, especially the most used keys being on the central line, but there were a couple annoyances (top-left escape/tilde/1 order I never got used to and always typoed). The major problem to me was what seemed like a bonus at first: it's too compact. While it's easy to pack away in a laptop bag, it was impossible for me to get an ergonomic arm position. My forearms were always angled inwards with my hands and wrists angled out. This ended up exacerbating my right arm problem and I had to stop using it. Unfortunately I really wanted it to work and had kept at it past the refund period so it's just sitting in a drawer now waiting for me to throw it up on ebay.
If the http://www.keyboard.io/ models were available I would have tried one of them next but I ended up going with a Microsoft Sculpt http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CYX26BC/ since the price was right after blowing the money on the TEK and I couldn't justify shelling out for the Kinesis now. I am still using the Sculpt and would definitely recommend it. I would also recommend the Kinesis if you're willing to spend the extra dough and don't mind (or appreciate) the archaic looks.
You know, it would be easier to get an ergonomic keyboard if they were priced better.
Which now made me go look around. Has anyone used this before - Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic keyboard
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Ergonomic-Keyboard-Business-...
One of the things I did that made a tremendous impact on reducing the tension in my joints, was buying a good keyboard.
I don't typically recommend Microsoft products, but their sculpt keyboard is a product which is cheap[0], stylish and most importantly ergonomic.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CYX26BC
[0] Cheap relative to other ergonomic keyboards.
I love the Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic:
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Ergonomic-Keyboard-Business...
Eliminated my wrist pain and the little USB dongle means the battery lasts for ever. I think I change batteries once or twice a year under really heavy use.
All the keyboard talk is kinda lost on me as I still hate typing on any laptop keyboard and drag one of these around with my laptop: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CYX26BC/
It seems silly but I'm more worried about typing.
It might be something to consider for those with keyboard issues.
Not him, but... Microsoft nailed it with the Sculpt ergonomic keyboard imho. Detached numpad so you can put the mouse closer to the keyboard, gentle sloping, nice key travel. It's a good split starter keyboard. This one is cheaper than the combo version because it doesn't include the mouse. Don't get the grey bluetooth one. It has a numpad and weird feel along with bt issues. https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Ergonomic-Keyboard-Business...
Exercise is very important. So is prevention.
Learn and use Dvorak. Get an ergonomic keyboard.
Non-affiliate links, ordered by increasing price. I have the 4000 and the Sculpt ergonomic for more than 5 years each. I've just started using the Ergodox.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000A6PPOK/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CYX26BC/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CYX54C0/
https://ergodox-ez.com/
I know you singled out chairs and desks, but let me also throw out a plug for the ergonomic keyboard I use. This keyboard is probably the reason I'm still able to work in the industry today.
The Microsoft Ergo Sculpt keyboard is amazing. It's very comfortable and doesn't require any getting used to, because it has a standard layout, and your hands sit in roughly a standard position when you're using it.
It's compatible with both Windows PCs and Mac/OSX. One point of caution, however: I have found that only some of them work automatically with my work Macbook. I've noticed that the USB transmitters come in 2 varieties: one that says 'Microsoft', and one that says 'Logitech' (IIRC). The ones that I've had good success with on the Mac are the ones that have the Microsoft transmitter. If you're just using it with a Windows PC, it doesn't matter which one you end up with.
Here's a link on Amazon to buy it for $70: https://smile.amazon.com/Microsoft-Ergonomic-Keyboard-Busine...
Seriously, if you're not already using an ergo keyboard, unless you're one of those mechanical keyboard gearheads who obsesses about colors of switches, you'll probably like it. I guarantee it will kick the socks off of any built-in laptop keyboard, and it's better than most wireless keyboards, IMO.
I’m 21 and my carpal tunnel was already getting quite bad. What fixed it for me was to use this keyboard [0] (with the stand to lift up the front) and this mouse [1]. I’ve tried a bunch of ergonomic keyboards and mice, some very expensive, and these are by far the best I’ve tried. The keyboard has the annoying quirk that it’s permanently paired to the dongle it comes with, so don’t lose it or you’re buying a new keyboard. The mouse is awesome though. Battery charges with USB-C and everything.
Basically a huge issue is that a normal keyboard and mouse force you to completely pronate your arms. That puts stress on your joints and isn’t healthy to do for an extended time (the bones in your arm are not a rigid system and actually move independently as you rotate them). The keyboard and mouse I recommend reduce significantly the amount of pronation required.
[0]: https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Ergonomic-Keyboard-Business...
[1]: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Vertical-Wireless-Mouse-Rech...