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4 HN users recommended this between 2018 and 2023, in 4 comments.
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The trouble is this thing: "BaoFeng BF-F8HP (UV-5R 3rd Gen) 8-Watt Dual Band Two-Way Radio (136-174Mhz VHF & 400-520Mhz UHF) Includes Full Kit"[1] This cheap radio is sold as a "ham radio", and requires a ham license. Large numbers of non-hams are using it in the GMRS service at higher power levels than allowed. It's popular with "preppers", even though it's not very rugged, is complicated to use, tends not to put out as much power as claimed, and the battery tends to come loose.[2] The FCC's concern is that it allows 8 watt blithering over a wide range of frequencies by people with no clue how to use it properly. There are GMRS radios made for hunters which are much more suitable for wilderness use - waterproof and easy to use.[3]
[1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAULSOK
[2] https://offgridsurvival.com/baofenguv5rv2review/
[3] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004PGM9PO/
The amateur radio community already has a significant problem with unlicensed users on UHF and VHF, because cheap Chinese handhelds are widely marketed on Amazon and eBay with no mention of the fact that they're amateur-band equipment and require a license to use. If you search for "two-way radio" or "walkie talkie", most of the product listings make no distinction between FRS, MURS, GMRS and amateur band equipment. With wideband SDR devices falling rapidly in price, there is an impending threat to all licensed frequencies - it isn't illegal to buy or sell a HackRF One, but you can do a lot of illegal things with it if you're ignorant of or indifferent to the regulations.
https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-BF-F8HP-Two-Way-136-174Mhz-40...
FCC enforcement is light-touch and they don't have infinite investigative capacity, but they are more than willing to throw down a hefty fine if you're a flagrant violator. The encryption ban is essential in allowing amateur radio operators to monitor their own service; a large proportion of FCC enforcement actions are initiated in response to a complaint from another service user.
https://www.fcc.gov/enforcement/orders
Fair point, but FWIW, even a little Baofeng F8HP[1], which sells for around $70 can do cross-band like this. I'm not sure this feature really qualifies as "exotic" these days.
[1]: https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-BF-F8HP-Two-Way-136-174Mhz-40...
The emergency preparedness aspect of Ham is highly under valued/underappreciated... or at least it goes unnoticed.
First, most modern handy talkies (what Ham's call their hand held radios) are also very solid "scanners". In so far as you can tune in to a lot of different frequencies and listen. Weather alerts, AM/FM Radio (like the kind you used to listen to in your car before spotify)... you name it. Super handy if you say, lose power and cell service.
Speaking of which, remember that cell service is heavily dependent on a number of external factors. Like the antenna's still being upright (earthquakes, tornado, hurricanes are bad). There still being power. There still being connectivity (typically fiber optic)... and most importantly - NOT being overloaded. With a Ham radio you can listen or transmit, with no other dependencies.
For more local issues, like hiking or camping. Even if you're out of cell range, your radio may very well work. A 5W handy talky can reach up to 30 miles, depending on your location (basically line of sight). If you can get to the top of a hill or mountain and get a clear view - you can get a signal out to someone. All you need to do is get on the 2-Meter Band Calling Frequency (146.520 Mhz) or the 70-Centimeter Band Calling Frequency (446.000 Mhz) and it's a safe bet someone out there is probably listening. Even better if you've looked up local repeaters in the area.
Also, the radio's are stupid cheap now. BaoFeng makes "cheap and cheerful" (nicest way to describe them) handheld units: Like a 8watt unit for $70 USD. https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-BF-F8HP-Two-Way-136-174Mhz-40... -- They even sell 2 packs of slightly weaker radios for $50 total. Are they the best? No. Should you splurge and get something better? Totally. Like a 10W radio that support DMR (Digital Mode) for $180 https://www.amazon.com/Radioddity-GD-AT10G-Handheld-Digital-... . But if you just want to get your ham and use it once-every year... get a $50 radio and toss it in your car or something similar. Just make sure to get alkaline batteries for them. Lithium rechargeable are nice but lose charge over time.